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Watched the rest of Bojack Horseman (seasons 3 to 6). So time for my thoughts on the series as a whole.

All in all I had a good time with this, and some of its high points were among the best I’ve seen in animated television. Several episodes in particular were surprisingly experimental, and still managed to hit the mark while doing so. And as I mentioned before, I really liked all of the main characters in this series. Bojack Horseman, Peanutbutter, Diane, Todd, and Princess Carolyn were all memorable, and each brought a different flavor of humor to the show’s eclectic style of comedy. I more or less always found it funny when Peanutbutter made one of his long-winded TV/film references (just to lead up to a simple everyday phrase or greeting), or when Todd came up with a very stupid idea for an invention (some of which would ridiculously turn into entire subplots), or when Carolyn had to relay instructions filled to the brim with unlikely rhymes and alliteration (always with the VA’s perfect delivery, never missing a beat).

That all said, I did feel the show had its ups and downs plot-wise, and for the last couple seasons it struggled to maintain that fantastic comedy-drama balance the first four seasons managed so well (overall). At the conclusion of each of the first four seasons I distinctly felt something… grand? Really strong emotions of despair, but with just enough hope to push you onward. But at the ends of seasons 5 and 6, I think I just felt tired.

Bojack suffers a lot throughout this series (we laugh, we cry, we throw our hands up in frustration), but I guess as time went on his self-destructive cycle started to get too repetitive. A lot of his pain is simply the consequences of his actions of course, but my thinking is there comes a point when a story that’s a comedy at heart needs to dial it back a bit and maybe not have the protagonist make SO many bad decisions. To some degree, I suppose the show simply suffered a bit of what I call “webcomic syndrome.” Back in the day (like, the 00s), there were a lot of funny, silly webcomics I read, but over the years pretty much all of them became increasingly plot-driven and turned surprisingly dark and serious, for good or for ill… Typically ill. Bojack (the show) doesn’t fall straight down that pit, but it perhaps trips over it awkwardly.

My other complaints are small nitpicks. I’ll admit, I was disappointed Princess Carolyn didn’t end up with the mouse Ralph Stilton (they had fun chemistry, and of all the couples in this series they felt the most evenly matched?). Her marriage with Judah in turn felt out of nowhere IMO. Along those lines, I’d say the main subplots for Diane, Todd, and Peanutbutter were all pretty meh in seasons 5-6, all bringing in new side characters that lacked the memorability of those from earlier seasons. I also wish things could have played out a bit differently for Hollyhock? Not saying her subplot with Bojack needed a happy ending, but it kinda felt like they didn’t quite know what to do with her after season 4 (which is too bad, since she was fun, and a different kind of “foil” for Bojack).

It’s times like this that I wish blogging was still a thing! I used to love writing up blog posts for various media, but even ten years ago hardly anyone cared about blogs. =/ Sadly I don’t have a Youtube personality, lol.

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I share basically all of your complaints, but the good just never outweighed the bad. After the shit with the reindeer(?) and her daughter, I was so pissed I didn’t last much longer. It basically became drama porn.

One funny thing, I think I remember a few characters doing the rhyming/tongue twister gags early on, and they gave Amy Sedaris one. She told them how much she despised it and didn’t want to do them again. So then the writers purposefully kept writing them for her.

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She ends up being the person who does them most!

Glad you overwhelmingly enjoyed it. I definitely enjoy those last two seasons more than you did. One thing you might not be aware of by watching it straight through, is that last season was released as two mini seasons that split after Hollyhock finds out Bojack was the guy who left that drunk high school girl at the hospital. I always loved this choice because the whole last episode of that half season really feels like a traditional series finale including an overwhelmingly happy ending. But then you get into the second half of the season and Bojack does not get a happy ending. I like it because it feels true and unflinching in a way that is absent in most TV and especially in animated sitcoms.

I adore the experimental episodes of Bojack. Free Churro and Stupid Piece of Shit are some of my favorite episodes of TV. What a show.

Lisa Hanawalt went on to make Tuca and Betty- a show that really has highs and lows but takes enormous swings. Raphael Bob-Waksberg made rotoscoped time-travel therapy show Undone which is worth a watch for the style alone but is maybe (shockingly) the least interesting of the three shows. Let me know if you check either of those out!

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I love Hanawalt and Tuca and Bertie is one of my favourite things put to TV. It’s a shame it was cancelled. I’d by lying if I said I thought it had any lows.

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I remember not enjoying parts of the first season, but it’s been so long since I watched it that I’m now having a hard time verbalizing what my issues were. But Tuca and Bertie is great. Definitely a recommendation.

Right, sorry, that’s what I meant to say lol, others do them less and less and she does the most.

Also Tuca and Bertie was much lighter/maybe even funnier than Bojack.

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Those were both certainly memorable. Some other experimental ones I rather liked:

  • Bojack’s underwater episode that has almost no dialogue (and ends in the funniest way possible)
  • The season 4 opener (Peanutbutter running for mayor), which doesn’t feature Bojack at all
  • The episode in which Bojack returns to his childhood home (with the fly next door), but that story and a story from the past (about Bojack’s grandmother) are shown at the same time for parts of it
  • The one where the episode is framed as a class presentation by Carolyn’s descendant in the distant future (though this is eventually revealed to just be her imagination)
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My wife and I finished The Fall of the House of Usher last night. I would recommend it, but it is probably my least favorite of Flanagan’s Netflix shows. The budget is stretched so thin that the scares don’t really land for me. The performances are mostly great, but there are some real clunkers in there (Mark Hamill is excellent in it). There is also the puzzling decision to make this whole show modern. At times you forget it is based on Edgar Allen Poe, but you’re reminded by folks having names like Tamerlane or Lenore, and you’re reminded when someone just starts reciting some poetry.

The story is engaging and the characters are interesting. If you’ve liked Flanagan’s work in the past, you’ll like this. If you’re looking for something of his to start with, I’d recommend The Haunting of Hill House or Midnight Mass.

IDK any Flanagan, but I’ve long been a fan of Edgar Allan Poe’s works so this did catch my eye while browsing Netflix. Would be good for Halloween time, but I also remembered I still need to watch the Ju-On (Japanese “The Grudge”) prequel miniseries they’ve got. I’ve heard it’s meh, but I’m a sucker for J-horror.

I really wish all the Ju-On films were available in English, incidentally. None of them streaming anywhere, and only the original is on Vudu. Europe got a nice Blu-ray collection of them earlier this year, so it’d be nice to see that come to NA region at some point…

The underwater episode is the one that stuck with me the most

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I watched “The Pale Blue Eye” and Christian Bale and Harry Melling as two lonely wounded souls, soulmates even, made this for me. I expected horror, but what I got was

Ah, distinctly I remember it was in the bleak December;
And each separate dying ember wrought its ghost upon the floor.
Eagerly I wished the morrow;—vainly I had sought to borrow
From my books surcease of sorrow—sorrow for the lost Lenore—
For the rare and radiant maiden whom the angels name Lenore—
Nameless here for evermore.

I give this a personal 10/10 for the two main characters and an 8/10 for it as a whole movie. I will rewatch this and I will make everyone I know watch it with me at least once.

It is a slow movie but hits you when you least expect it. I love how the characters have all the time in the world to speak about their thoughts and feelings and still most lingers unsaid but also outspoken in the room. This movie captured Poe’s Raven perfectly.

As a side note I love the women’s clothing in this movie, I really wanted to touch the cloth.

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The newest episode of Jujutsu Kaisen adapted my favorite fight in the series so far. It was spectacular. Just a 20 minute brawl in a bathroom. It was fantastic.

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Hacks is a great show. Just very clever and compact writing. Jean Smart is always an entrancing actress, but the whole cast is great. Sometimes you can sniff the budget, but this is what I’m looking for in a scripted comedy. Precisely funny. I love it.

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If anyone is after a really cleverly written comedy series and has Netflix, check out Fisk. Only the first of its two seasons are on there, but it’s absolute gold. 100% recommended.

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Agreed!

Also Blue Submarine #6 has some excellent drawn animations with 3d backgrounds.

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“Okay, I gotta use the bathroom”

“Me too.”

-Conversation between me and my wife after Killers of the Flower Moon

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Yeah, I’ve gotta admit I’ve never seen a trailer for a Martin Scorsese film and though “man, I have to see that!”

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Did the theater actually have an intermission? I’ve seen a story where some have been skipping them as per the director’s intention, which sounds insane with a 206 minute film.

Sounds like you and your wife had a great time at the movies! I’m glad you enjoyed Smile, and I’m definitely looking forward to Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.

Here are a few other new movies that I’ve been watching and enjoying:

  • Killers of the Flower Moon: A Martin Scorsese film about the Osage Indian murders in 1920s Oklahoma. It’s a slow-burn crime drama, but it’s beautifully made and features excellent performances from Leonardo DiCaprio and Robert De Niro.
  • The Exorcist: Believer: A sequel to the classic 1973 horror film. It’s not quite as good as the original, but it’s still a decent scare-fest.
  • All of Those Voices: A documentary about the world of voice acting. It’s a lot of fun to hear from some of the most iconic voices in the industry, and it gives a fascinating glimpse into the process of bringing animated characters to life.
  • Pain Hustlers: A dark comedy about a group of women who start a pharmaceutical startup. It’s a bit over-the-top, but it’s also very funny and thought-provoking.
  • Taylor Swift: The Eras Tour: A concert film documenting Taylor Swift’s recent tour. It’s a must-see for any Swiftie!

What other new movies have you been enjoying lately?

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