Movies and TV, Anyone?

Enterprise, despite the dumb theme song, was surprisingly ok. Picard was a lot of fan service, but very good.

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Thinking about doing the same, but I have this fear that TOS might not hold up and it would destroy me to suddenly hate it when I was 6 years old when I saw the German version (vastly different from the original in many points, I am born 1966 ) for the first time and loved it to bits for many years. I haven’t seen any of the following series to the last episode… life just came between me and that and I have no idea how TNG or Voyager or Deep Space Nine ended and I have not watched the anime series or anything after DS9.

I am deeply in limbo, my Paramount+ subscription is running out in a few months and I am definitely not renewing, so I have to come to a consclusion soon, since I think its the only place where everything is together in Germany at least?

Do you like it so far? Still a classic or too cringy nowadays? Help me make a decision, please!

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ToS is amazing, campy as hell, and in many ways the best Trek. Plus Slash fiction basically owes its existence to ST:ToS :wink:

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That’s basically what makes me so hesitant, because I took the show very seriously at the time. I know that the short skirts, the philandering captain, the only woman on the bridge who is severely underutilised in the series (not the books where she became my hero), where she mostly has one line per episode … is not up to today’s standards. And of course there is more of the cringe and bad. As a child, I saw women being taken seriously when no one around me was, and I was still sold the idea that girls were bad at maths. I watched the series through pink glasses and saw nothing bad, only a beautiful future.

53 years later I’m afraid I have to take the camp and the slash and the misogyny and the racism ( It has it and fights it at the same time) and enjoy it with popcorn and I’m not sure I can. I have to somehow see it as it actually was and I’m not sure I want to, but on the other hand - I should, I really should and come here, complain and let you all help me cope?

I could start this weekend with the pilot(s) and watching the original language version not the German one, maybe that helps to distinguish between back then and now?

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So far, I pretty much agree with BMO. As far as holding up, the broader cast is more diverse than I recall. I had forgotten that Yeoman Janice Rand had a fairly big role.

Campy, yes. The storylines in the first five episodes are also kind of repetitive. They feature similar antagonists. I’m expecting we’ll see a bit more variety farther down.

Still, it’s enjoyable. Definitely not as hard to rewatch as I found the Indiana Jones movies to be.

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Anyone seen the trailer for the G20 movie? I’m not a fan of these kinds of films at the best of times but given the current world situation it just feels kind of…pathetic?

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That gives me hope, thank you! I still love the one with Indy’s dad, but the older ones are… let’s say they have issues and I feel that about a lot of older stuff. That’s one reason why I shied away from tackling this.

But I guess never knowing what the last third of TNG and DS9 and Voyager was about is also a loss. I don’t even know what came after that besides the first new movie which was ok-ish (a bit too much action and not enough philosophy for my taste).

Is the anime series canon? A need to watch thing?

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That’s just… Ugh. In so many ways.

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Honestly makes me wanna vomit.

I wonder if Americans find this stuff embarrassing?

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I was on a Jurassic Park kick ! I watched the first 3 and even read the 2 books [I don’t really read much these days]. I like the first one best, of course. Wasn’t really interested in the more recent movies

My friend got me into Pitch Meetings on YouTube and they have covered the Jurassic Park movies

I had some of the dinosaur figures when I was little, too. Wasn’t interested in the humans

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tell me what G20 is and I’ll tell you how embarrassed I am by it.

I’m watching Lord of the Rings with the kids and we just got to the Galadriel scene and the series just sings here. The gang loses Gandalf and the world just got so much bigger and scarier and the ring weighs heavier than ever before. It’s really cool seeing my kids get into these. They never really jived with star wars but this is engrossing them. They’re kinda perfect family movies - grand, not stupid, a little scary, but life affirming. I’m having a great time and I’m glad it is holding up for my kids.

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I read Michael Crichton’s Jurassic Park a few years ago and really liked it. It’s about 50% similar to the movie? I overall prefer the film though, it’s just that good. Crichton enjoys digging into the science of sci-fi a bit more in his books, so if you find that interesting it’s worth a read.

I read The Lost World last year, and didn’t care for that as much. That one’s probably more like 10% similar to its movie (different cast, aside from Malcolm—and different plot, motivations for everyone, etc). The main focus in the book is everyone studying what causes extinction for species (namely dinosaurs).

I re-read the books about a year ago (loved them), and then re-watched the extended edition films, which I finally bought in a Blu-ray box set. (I’ve gotten into collecting Blu-rays over the past couple years.) Those Lord of the Rings movies are SO good. It’s the sort of thing where I feel like I can point to any one aspect of them, and say 10 out of 10. It’s astounding how well everything comes together for that trilogy, and I think it could have only been made when it was. (Ten years earlier, it would’ve been pretty hokey — ten years later, it would’ve just been green-screen CG for everything.)

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Sadly, the Hobbit films are proof of this.

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I watched Problem Child on the YouTube ! Problem Child was in it

Might’ve seen it long, long ago but I only remember ed the premise, if that. I remember the school bully throwing a satellite dish at him in the sequel (?) and thinking….who could be powerful enough to defeat PROBLEM CHILD ?!

Anyway, it was pretty cool. Showed the Power of Love and had some physical comedy and a damsel in distress part. I thought Jack–I mean Ben –would keep Junior and get rid of Flo !

At one point he bemoans “we’ve adopted Satan”….well, didn’t you see him dressed as Satan at the party earlier ? Way to miss the foreshadowing !

Watched Paddington in Peru with my wife and parents. Not quite as good as the first two but it has some good laughs and is charming and wholesome as all heck.

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I don’t think I’ve seen the Hobbit trilogy since those first released (my memory of rating the three was 3/5, 2/5, and 1/5). I’ll probably rewatch them sometime this year, since I did re-read the book along with LotR. The Hobbit book is such a fun read. As much as I love Peter Jackson’s take on LotR, I feel the Hobbit needed a different approach to fit its tone better. I know Del Toro was originally slated to direct, but I’m not sure if his style is what I would’ve liked to see for the Hobbit either. (I’ll admit it would’ve been interesting at least, ha ha.)

It needed to be much lighter. While there are dark elements in The Hobbit it’s not LotR dark. As much as I loved seeing Sylvester McCoy as Radagast the Brown, they shouldn’t have tried to tie the Hobbit films in with the LotR ones as hard as they did.

I’m watching Anne Shirley, the new anime based on Anne of Green Gables. I really liked that book as a child, and I’m also quite enjoying the anime. I still remember most of the events in the story, but they hit differently now that I’m seeing them as an adult.