# What's Going on With X-Box? **URL:** \ **Category:** Video Games\ **Created:** [May 18, 2024, 9:25pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795 "2024-05-18T21:25:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2025, 9:37pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/162 "2025-10-05T21:37:15Z")
This hole Microsoft is digging with Game Pass just seems to keep getting bigger: [Report: _Call Of Duty: Black Ops 6_ On Game Pass Cost Microsoft $300 Million In Lost Sales](https://kotaku.com/report-call-of-duty-black-ops-6-on-game-pass-cost-microsoft-300-million-in-lost-sales-2000631659) ---
**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 10:43pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/163 "2025-10-12T22:43:14Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/8K8EqMZocdY/maxresdefault.jpg "Being an Xbox fan in 2025 #xbox #gamepass #gaming #comedy #shorts") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K8EqMZocdY) ---
**Author:** ![Nelemania](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/nelemania/32/11700_2.png) [@Nelemania](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/Nelemania)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 6:43am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/164 "2025-10-13T06:43:03Z")
Woohooo Xbox! 🤣🎃 at least 20 character ---
**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 12:57pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/165 "2025-10-13T12:57:12Z")
A solid reminder that it’s best never to be a fan of a company. ---
**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 3:47pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/166 "2025-10-13T15:47:00Z")
Me, who loves SEGA: ![the-simpsons-homer-simpson](https://discuss.grouvee.com/uploads/default/original/2X/0/00a3c6ade40482474f46b90add085627242d2ca9.gif) ---
**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/167 "2025-10-13T16:31:35Z")
I just think brands are never our friends, they are never really for the user/public. They’ll fuck us over any chance they get to make money. ---
**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/168 "2025-10-21T17:34:11Z")
This is potentially going to make it harder for small devs looking to develop for consoles to consider Xbox as an option to develop for: > **[Even Xbox developer kits are getting a big price hike](https://www.theverge.com/report/803237/microsoft-xbox-devkit-price-hikes-developers)** > > The Trump tariffs hit Xbox again ---
**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 9:34pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/169 "2025-10-22T21:34:57Z")
[After Releasing a $1,000 Handheld, Microsoft Has Said Its Next-Gen Xbox Console ‘Is Going to Be a Very Premium, Very High-End Curated Experience’](https://www.ign.com/articles/after-releasing-a-1000-handheld-microsoft-has-said-its-next-gen-xbox-console-is-going-to-be-a-very-premium-very-high-end-curated-experience) ---
**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 11:06pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/170 "2025-10-22T23:06:29Z")
Maybe that means they’ll treat everyone to premium wood veneer and a pure, finest quality [Naugahyde](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naugahyde) finish! Only the best from everyone’s pal Phil Spencer 😉 ![Garfield strip by Jim Davis. Panel # 1 Jon “THERE YOU ARE, GARFIELD. A GENUINE NAUGAHYDE LEASH”. Panel #2 Garfield “HOW INHUMANE! HOW CRUEL!”. Panel #3 Garfield “DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY NAUGAS ADTO SHED TO MAKE LEASH?”](https://discuss.grouvee.com/uploads/default/original/2X/5/5f29dce2a0a69d0eb5e14927e4a2a4b25a0cb53c.png) ---
**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 12:18pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/171 "2025-10-23T12:18:23Z")
> **[Jason Schreier (@jasonschreier.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/jasonschreier.bsky.social/post/3m3u7ito7zk2i)** > > SCOOP: For the last two years, Microsoft has pushed Xbox to hit profit margins of 30%, an ambitious target that's far higher than the industry average. > > This chase for profit has led Xbox to raise prices, cut thousands of jobs, and rethink... Schreier included a gift link in that post for those who want to read the full article. > In the past, game makers at Xbox weren’t asked to hit specific numerical targets, said the people, and were largely told to focus on making the best games possible without worrying too much about finances. The new target was implemented in fall 2023 by Microsoft Chief Financial Officer Amy Hood, whose team has taken a larger role in the gaming business in recent years. ---
**Author:** ![Nelemania](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/nelemania/32/11700_2.png) [@Nelemania](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/Nelemania)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 1:44pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/172 "2025-10-23T13:44:10Z")
The problem is that AI doesn’t generate any revenue, so everything else needs to generate revenue to make up for it. This allows them to continue pretending that AI isn’t a money pit with no return on investment. No matter how much money is made from games, Game Pass, Xbox, hardware, Office, Windows, etc., it will never be enough to feed the AI void. They know that, yet they still go ahead with it. They know it, yet they continue anyway, for reasons I can no longer fathom. _One day, AI will bring in billions, save the world and cure cancer_ – it’s like a gambling addict who’s sure that one more spin of the wheel will win them everything back. I did not think that an entire industry could act like an addict, but that’s exactly what’s happening here. ---
**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 2:38pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/173 "2025-10-23T14:38:40Z")
All evidence points to the fact that the entire revenue structure of AI is based on companies like NVIDIA selling compute power to companies like META, OpenAI, Google and MS, and those four companies selling AI software back to companies like NVIDIA. It’s one giant insular bubble completely fuelled by VC and Private Equity money, and it will all burst. All signs point to a burst soon, especially since OpenAI and the like are trying to earn advertising dollars off their AI platforms by convincing users to engage with things like their AI web browser and search engine and to consume random content from Sora, all of which [OpenAI wants to support via advertising](https://opentools.ai/news/openai-explores-ads-in-ai-products-revenue-boost-or-user-turn-off). Which basically means they are just trying to get in on the ad revenue search and social media game, making them just another player in the already oversaturated cycle of forcing unwanted media on people and earning ad revenue off it that we are complete sick of anyway. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Q0TpWitfxPk/maxresdefault.jpg "The State of the AI Industry is Freaking Me Out") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0TpWitfxPk) Oh and about Private Equity, which is backing all of these shenanigans: **[‘Crazy, Right?’: More PE Funds Than McDonald’s Signals Pressure](http://archive.today/1Bz2l)** ---
**Author:** ![GigaDeathNullGolem](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/gigadeathnullgolem/32/14841_2.png) [@GigaDeathNullGolem](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/GigaDeathNullGolem)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2025, 12:29am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/174 "2025-10-25T00:29:41Z")
i am unsure what started this ai bubble talk in this thread but agree with what you’ve said and what @Nelemania said as well. Seeing how the people IN the industry talk about existing technology and the assumptions made with linear progression made me start rethinking where this was going and what to expect of it… the thought of an AGI is scary but the reality that this could create the biggest downturn in our lives our children and probably grandchildren that could take decades to get out of is pretty scary too (and seems increasingly real the more I read and look at what is going on) A perceived transformative boom related to technology that aided trade often has been the prelude to a big crash. it happened with railroads, then the telegraph, automated portfolio protection (which were prototype options that people at the time didnt really understand) then the internet… it’s interesting how nobody learns and it just keeps happening every now and then and the same tools keep getting used. Then when the next ‘tool’ comes out, boom, happens again and everyone acts surprised. Gee, wonder what ways this tool is being used right now? ---
**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/175 "2025-10-25T14:39:46Z")
I don’t think any three words have ever articulated the idea that we are at the end of a significant era better than [Halo on PlayStation](https://kotaku.com/halo-1-remake-combat-evolved-trailer-hwc-teaser-xbox-ps5-2000638911). Whether someone thinks this good or bad, it’s definitely not something I think anyone thought would be possible even a year or two ago. ---
**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/176 "2025-10-27T21:12:31Z")
> **[Nicole Carpenter (@nicolecarpenter.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/nicolecarpenter.bsky.social/post/3m475c6uz422l)** > > I asked Microsoft PR about this—specially the DHS using Halo IP to recruit for ICE—and the company declined to comment. > **[Samit Sarkar (@samitsarkar.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/samitsarkar.bsky.social/post/3m4773wmn3k2y)** > > yeah, well, Microsoft's decision to donate money to Trump's ballroom project is all the "comment" anyone needs here > > \[contains quote post or other embedded content\] ---
**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2025, 10:15pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/177 "2025-10-27T22:15:40Z")
[Huge Xbox Report Details ‘Ambitious’ Next-Gen Console With Free Online Play](https://www.purexbox.com/news/2025/10/huge-xbox-report-details-ambitious-next-gen-console-with-free-online-play#comments) > …the report says that the next Xbox will essentially be a PC with the Xbox Full Screen Experience; much like ROG Xbox Ally but in home console form. It will apparently “feel like a traditional Xbox console out of the box” though, and users will have the option to stay within an ‘Xbox ecosystem’ that will feel very similar to Series X and S. The option will then be there to open things up and access other storefronts and Windows features if you so choose. ---
**Author:** ![8BitHero](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/8bithero/32/15648_2.png) [@8BitHero](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/8BitHero)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2025, 2:17am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/178 "2025-11-01T02:17:00Z")
Sounds like X-Box deleted itself. There is no reason to buy an X-Box or Microsoft Product. ---
**Author:** ![8BitHero](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/8bithero/32/15648_2.png) [@8BitHero](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/8BitHero)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/179 "2025-11-30T22:02:40Z")
So I bought my wife a laptop and its windows unfortunately. Thats what she’s used to but the amount of bloat that Microsoft has added is disgusting. She was trying to print something using edge and it wasn’t until I downloaded Chrome that it printed. I set chrome as the default browser but edge sneaks its way into opening links and garbage. I need to spend tomorrow rehabing a brand new laptop because Microsoft turned it into a shit storm. Thanks for listening to my vent! ---
**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2025, 4:23pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/180 "2025-12-18T16:23:52Z")
https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ybj10537yi4?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque People Make Games put together a thoughtful video on the topic of the MS boycott. ---
**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2026, 9:49pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795/181 "2026-01-22T21:49:59Z")
![Screenshot of a Bluesky post that states "Microsoft provides technology that upholds Israel's apartheid and powers ICE's deportation and detention infrastructure. It's strange to watch people express genuine, justified rage at ICE and then immediately fawn over Xbox reveals like Microsoft exists in a gamer vacuum." There is a link in the image that is provided below.](https://discuss.grouvee.com/uploads/default/original/2X/f/f3c47dc02262ef799f7598c540b4e0ba9f64ff7f.png) > **[Jake Steinberg (@jakesteinberg.substack.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/jakesteinberg.substack.com/post/3mcztdcw27s2k)** > > This author has chosen to make their posts visible only to people who are signed in. [https://medium.com/@noazureforapartheid/microsoft-powers-ice-why-doesnt-microsoft-want-to-talk-about-its-contracts-with-immigration-and-bc04fae8d43b](https://medium.com/@noazureforapartheid/microsoft-powers-ice-why-doesnt-microsoft-want-to-talk-about-its-contracts-with-immigration-and-bc04fae8d43b) [Previous page](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795.md?page=8) [Next page](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/whats-going-on-with-x-box/13795.md?page=10)