# Super SEGA & Sonic Way Past Cool Club

**URL:** <https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679>\
**Category:** Fan Clubs\
**Created:** [December 12, 2022, 10:08am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679 "2022-12-12T10:08:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/259 "2024-06-08T21:24:59Z")

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Anyone else picking this up?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/FxaMIOxfwwQ/maxresdefault.jpg "SONIC X SHADOW GENERATIONS - Summer Game Fest Trailer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxaMIOxfwwQ)

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**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 11:58pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/260 "2024-06-08T23:58:21Z")

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Eventually, I think so. You?

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**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2024, 7:56am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/261 "2024-06-09T07:56:42Z")

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100%. _Generations_ is one of my favourite _Sonic_ games so I’ll totally be picking it up. That said, I think they should have offered it as an update for those that already own the game, even paid, rather than just a whole new game.

Apart from the Shadow stuff and the graphical upgrade the only other change I’ve read is that the White Space has been redesigned with "inspiration from "_Sonic Frontiers_’ islands. Maybe that means they can’t just make it DLC, I don’t know, but the choice would have been nice.

The [pre-order bonus of Gerald Robotnik’s journal](https://www.game.co.uk/en/sonic-x-shadow-generations-2623998) sounds really cool, but I can’t find anywhere if it’s physical or not. But who am I kidding, I’m gonna get the physical copy either way. 😅

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**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2024, 11:16am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/262 "2024-06-09T11:16:33Z")

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I definitely want a physical copy. I think my thing with these releases is they aren’t really limited so I can grab them on sale after a few months. I usually do that with most physical releases unless they will be limited.

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**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 12:43pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/263 "2024-06-10T12:43:48Z")

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Do you get the digital version to play and then physical later when it’s cheap or just wait for the whole thing?

P.S. Word on Reddit is that the journal is physical. It was Reddit tough, still can’t find any official source.

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**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 1:22pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/264 "2024-06-10T13:22:02Z")

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> [@anon30672897](#):
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> Do you get the digital version to play and then physical later when it’s cheap or just wait for the whole thing?

Sometimes both if it’s digital only initially, like it was with _Sonic Origins_ and then _Sonic Origins Plus_. I didn’t wait for Plus to go on sale, I just bought it when it launched in physical form.

> [@anon30672897](#):
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> Word on Reddit is that the journal is physical

Hmm, that deserves some consideration. Maybe I should order it and not wait.

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**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 2:37am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/265 "2024-07-10T02:37:46Z")

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[Sonic Team Head Wants To Make A Sonic RPG Before Retiring](https://www.thegamer.com/sonic-team-head-wants-to-make-sonic-rpg-before-retiring/)

I’d play the hell out of a Sonic RPG.

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**Author:** ![Inc](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/inc/32/11985_2.png) [@Inc](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/Inc)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 7:50am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/266 "2024-07-10T07:50:56Z")

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The fact there was never Sonic Generations DLC was madness to me. It was ripe for it. Releasing new zones every 6 months, we could have had all the classic games remade in 3D by now! They missed a trick.

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**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 8:31am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/267 "2024-07-10T08:31:35Z")

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> I’d play the hell out of a Sonic RPG.

Have you tried _Sonic Chronicles_? 😆

Jokes aside, I agree. I think it’d make a great action RPG. It would give them the chance to sort out the lore as well. SEGA, if you need a writer… 😅

> The fact there was never Sonic Generations DLC was madness to me. It was ripe for it. Releasing new zones every 6 months, we could have had all the classic games remade in 3D by now! They missed a trick.

100%. And the fan base would have eaten it up! There are quite a few very good mods out there for the PC version that add more classic levels, but the fact SEGA never did it officially is craziness. I guess it _could_ happen with _Generations X Shadow_.

**Edit:** From the article BMO posted;

> Unsurprisingly, it was pretty dire

Fuck that site.

Yes, _Chronicles_ wasn’t great, but why is that unsurprising, exactly? It was made by BioWare, who were at the top of their game at the time. The problems come mostly from the fact that it was their first handheld game and they were blindsided by just how much they [had to compromise](https://www.destructoid.com/dtoid-qa-sonic-chronicles-the-dark-brotherhood/) to get the game down to something the DS could handle. It’s not a terrible game, it has all the _Sonic_ staples like collecting Rings, loop-the-loops, varied levels and even a pretty cool story IMO. They even tried to get the series’ signature speed into the game by re-designing the combat system to be faster.

Was it something of a failed experiment? Sure, but they bloody well _tried._ The game was a perfectly serviceable, mid-tier RPG that tried something new, made by a team unfamiliar with the hardware who had not worked at that hardware scale before.

This perfectly summarises what really, honestly shits me about games “journalism.” Rather than acknowledging the team tried to do something new with an established character, tried their best to make a traditionally slower genre more speedy, worked to a scale they weren’t used to and _still_ made a very playable, albeit it not perfect, game, they just shit all over the thing because it wasn’t The Greatest Game Ever.

Honestly, why do devs even bother when their hard work gets that kind of reaction?

Ok, rant over.

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**Author:** ![Inc](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/inc/32/11985_2.png) [@Inc](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/Inc)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 8:39am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/268 "2024-07-10T08:39:06Z")

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Looking forward to seeing if Modern Sonic Labyrinth Zone is less frustrating 🤣

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**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 1:51pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/269 "2024-07-10T13:51:37Z")

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> [@anon30672897](#):
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> Have you tried _Sonic Chronicles_? 😆

I always forget about the BioWare Sonic game. Should I play it? I know people are nasty about it, but I have been curious about it in the past. I should put it on my list to check out this year if I have time.

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**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 4:00pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/270 "2024-07-10T16:00:48Z")

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Knowing the way you appreciate games in a more considered way than just “good/bad” I think that, yes, it’s worth checking out. It is brilliant? No. Is it still a capable game with enjoyable parts? Totally.

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**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 10:29am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/271 "2024-07-16T10:29:05Z")

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Just had to share this…

 ![1000033649](https://discuss.grouvee.com/uploads/default/original/2X/e/ecd6777b8bff4350e991c5d6e6c42bb7a66a9944.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 1:23pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/272 "2024-08-14T13:23:37Z")

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[The original _Sonic Generations_ is going to be delisted](https://www.polygon.com/24216961/sonic-x-shadow-generations-delisting-steam-xbox)…kinda.

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**Author:** ![kupomog337](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/kupomog337/32/14693_2.png) [@kupomog337](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/kupomog337)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/273 "2024-08-17T17:22:16Z")

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Time to sail the seven seas again, ye old scallywag.

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**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 4:27pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/274 "2024-08-20T16:27:08Z")

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New _Sonic X Shadow_ trailer. Interestingly, it looks to show some of the islands from _Frontiers._ 🤔

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/7N-64Uzx2ac/hqdefault.jpg "SONIC X SHADOW GENERATIONS - Doom Powers Trailer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N-64Uzx2ac)

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**Author:** ![tylerisrandom](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/tylerisrandom/32/14505_2.png) [@tylerisrandom](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/tylerisrandom)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/275 "2024-08-24T16:59:40Z")

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The [limited collector’s edition](https://limitedrungames.com/collections/sonic-x-shadow-generations) has a dang Dreamcast statue in it, but it’s _way_ too much for me to justify. Sticking with a regular ol’ boxed copy.

It’s interesting to see Sonic Team adding Shadow content with the Frontiers engine. Sorta feels like what Nintendo did with the Bowser’s Fury content that used the Odyssey engine when re-releasing 3D World. I hope I like it better than I did the Frontiers DLC!

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**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/276 "2024-08-24T22:50:49Z")

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Yeah, that collectors edition looks awesome but it’s just way too expensive. I got the collectors edition for the original _Generations_ and it was nowhere near that much.

The _Frontiers_ DLC was a direct reaction to people complaining the game was too easy, but they over corrected by a long shot and all the dude bros then complained it was too hard. It’s since been made easier, but I’ve not tried it yet.

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**Author:** ![tylerisrandom](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/tylerisrandom/32/14505_2.png) [@tylerisrandom](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/tylerisrandom)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/277 "2024-08-24T23:10:52Z")

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> [@anon30672897](#):
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> The _Frontiers_ DLC was a direct reaction to people complaining the game was too easy, but they over corrected by a long shot and all the dude bros then complained it was too hard. It’s since been made easier, but I’ve not tried it yet.

I don’t know if anyone’s ever called me a “dude bro” before, but I definitely thought it was too hard! Or rather, I thought it was silly for combat challenges to gate story/exploration beats.

I didn’t know they’d tuned the difficulty at all, may have to give it another whirl.

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**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 1:37am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/super-sega-sonic-way-past-cool-club/10679/278 "2024-08-25T01:37:35Z")

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I meant the people who said it was too easy were dude bros., who then went on to bitch about it being difficult.

I hate that “oh, it’s too easy so it’s bad” mentality. There are plenty of games that are designed to be punishing, but _Sonic_ has never, nor should ever IMO, be that hard. It’s a real shame SEGA bowed to them, but they did make them eat humble pie, which I thought was pretty funny.

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