# Movies and TV, Anyone?

**URL:** <https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249>\
**Category:** Off-Topic\
**Created:** [October 3, 2022, 2:23pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249 "2022-10-03T14:23:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![El\_Diegote](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/el_diegote/32/14572_2.png) [@El\_Diegote](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/El_Diegote)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 4:30pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/147 "2023-04-13T16:30:19Z")

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And I hope the exoskeleton cuts the habit of having Grogu walking in such an unnatural way, like if it doesn’t have a single joint.

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**Author:** ![georgeypoorgey](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/georgeypoorgey/32/15084_2.png) [@georgeypoorgey](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/georgeypoorgey)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/148 "2023-04-13T16:35:18Z")

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I like the puppets looking bad. That is Star Wars to me.

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**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/149 "2023-04-13T18:43:48Z")

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His species doesn’t develop joints until age 75.

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**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 2:19pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/150 "2023-04-14T14:19:56Z")

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_Nods in Doctor Who._

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**Author:** ![georgeypoorgey](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/georgeypoorgey/32/15084_2.png) [@georgeypoorgey](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/georgeypoorgey)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/151 "2023-04-14T14:41:53Z")

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I have never watched Doctor Who but I am interested in it for its bad puppets and David Tennant.

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**Author:** ![Nelemania](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/nelemania/32/11700_2.png) [@Nelemania](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/Nelemania)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 3:27pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/152 "2023-04-14T15:27:02Z")

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> [@georgeypoorgey](#):
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> I like the puppets looking bad. That is Star Wars to me.

 ![1c1ca5b122d34c59a4026d0ad2f6786clg](https://discuss.grouvee.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/69065d9a2686bac318b7a936cdb1ba5503b07a72.png)

These three and I agree. 😁

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**Author:** ![georgeypoorgey](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/georgeypoorgey/32/15084_2.png) [@georgeypoorgey](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/georgeypoorgey)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 3:45pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/153 "2023-04-14T15:45:40Z")

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Hey Disney,

Where THE HECK is our Salacious B. Crumb miniseries? What the gat-dang HECK Disney?! Get it together Disney!!

Best regards,

A humble Star Wars patron

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**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/154 "2023-04-15T17:08:10Z")

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Classic _Who_ is better for bad monsters/ puppets.

Behold - the vile GREEN BUBBLE WRAP MONSTER!

![R](https://discuss.grouvee.com/uploads/default/original/2X/a/ad29dc56fd6458c50fc855b4471615e5d0e1cd84.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/155 "2023-04-15T17:08:57Z")

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I actually don’t think those look bad at all 🤷

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**Author:** ![Nelemania](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/nelemania/32/11700_2.png) [@Nelemania](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/Nelemania)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/156 "2023-04-15T21:18:40Z")

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Star Trek TOS from the year 1969 calls up and sends its candidate “ **Yarnek** ”:

 ![Yarnek-760x572](https://discuss.grouvee.com/uploads/default/original/2X/f/f7b857b4aa5107f9ac3b380f3b0bc91b15473e38.jpeg)

Here in motion:

> **["Star Trek" The Savage Curtain (TV Episode 1969) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708477/)**
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> The Savage Curtain: Directed by Herschel Daugherty. With William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, DeForest Kelley, Lee Bergere. Kirk, Spock, Abraham Lincoln and Vulcan legend Surak are pitted in battle against notorious villains from history for the purpose...

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**Author:** ![Reset\_Tears](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/reset_tears/32/11706_2.png) [@Reset\_Tears](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/Reset_Tears)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 11:53pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/157 "2023-04-15T23:53:19Z")

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A couple years back I watched all the old kaiju movies from Toho Studios (the original 15 Godzilla films, Rodan, Mothra, Gargantuas, etc), so I’ve grown to appreciate / enjoy these people in costumes, puppetry, makeshift sets full of toys, and so on. There’s a charm to it all, once you get used to them and can suspend your disbelief to just roll with it all.

Might as well share my personal recommendations:

- Godzilla (1954) – the original, and the best. I think it’s a must-watch for everyone. It’s the most serious of the original run of Godzilla films, and IMO stands out for having the most interesting “human side” storyline. In a way it’s not really even a movie _about_ Godzilla. (But theater-goers loved him so much… well, “15 Godzilla films in 21 years” tells you everything.)
- Rodan (1956) – there aren’t too many of these old kaiju films I’d call particularly _serious_ but this is one of them. A bit more of a horror vibe than the rest, and I actually felt sad by the ending. I think this is also the last of the black-and-white kaiju flicks.
- King Kong vs Godzilla (1962) – a fun and silly one that made the “kaiju vs kaiju” story foundation more set in stone. The other King Kong film by Toho is also a riot. (1967’s King Kong Escapes, which features a giant robot of the great ape.)
- Mothra vs Godzilla (1964) – another fun one, and this features my second-favorite kaiju Mothra. (It’s fine to watch this without seeing the 1961 Mothra film, which features a fairly similar plot.) The setup here is silly, but also perhaps not so unrealistic after all… I recommend this one most for light but entertaining Godzilla viewing.
- Godzilla vs Hedorah (1971) – if you want to watch a strange, more experimental Godzilla film. This one is weird, and maybe a bit (very) on the nose with its anti-pollution message. But the ending also includes a scene in which Godzilla… well, I won’t spoil it, but let’s just say it was _very_ unexpected looooooool.

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**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2023, 3:40am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/158 "2023-04-16T03:40:17Z")

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Practical effect will always look “better” to my eye. I can’t help it, I was effectively raised by Jim Henson, _The Muppet Show_, _The Dark Crystal_. And _Labyrinth_.

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**Author:** ![Nelemania](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/nelemania/32/11700_2.png) [@Nelemania](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/Nelemania)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2023, 12:13pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/159 "2023-04-16T12:13:29Z")

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> [@Reset\_Tears](#):
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> Godzilla (1954) – the original, and the best. I think it’s a must-watch for everyone.

I saw it as a child on television one night when my parents were out bowling. I wasn’t allowed to watch it, but I did. That film gave me nightmares for years. I think everyone should see it. If you give it a chance, it actually stands up, as @Reset_Tears wrote, because of the human part(s) of the story. The reporter on the tower, for example, reporting until the last minute is such a classic.

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**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2023, 2:59pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/160 "2023-04-16T14:59:11Z")

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I’m curious which version you saw. For decades the original cut was not circulated in the west (at least so in the Americas), and the cut that did circulate was heavily edited, reframing much of the story:

> When released in America, Honda’s original cut of _Godzilla_ was radically alerted, dubbed and made lousy with Raymond Burr. Instead of slowly revealing a country under siege from a terrible monster, the American version—_Godzilla, King of Monsters!_ —featured reporter Steven Martin (Burr) telling us about all the destruction and rampage of this monster _after the fact_ . It can’t get any more clear than this: by re-ordering the impact of the Godzilla’s rampage to the beginning of the narrative, the horror and gradual parallels between human-woven catastrophe become lost. From his first glimpses in America, Godzilla was something that had already happened, a foregone conclusion to a subtitle that told us too much. ([Godzilla in the Mist: Rediscovering the 60th Anniversary Restoration of the Classic Film](https://www.tor.com/2014/04/23/godzilla-in-the-mist-rediscovering-the-60th-anniversary-restoration-of-the-classic-film/))

A 60th anniversary edition restored the original Toho cut, and I highly recommend it for anyone who hasn’t watched the original version. I suspect that cut is the one @Reset_Tears is referring to above, but I know that a lot of people have or had only seen the altered American cut as that was the main cut that circulated outside Japan for decades.

Also, after watching the original Toho cut of the 1954 _Godzilla_ everyone should watch _[Shin Godzilla](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Godzilla)_, which is phenomenal and is in direct dialogue with the original. The two films make for an exceptional double bill.

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**Author:** ![Nelemania](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/nelemania/32/11700_2.png) [@Nelemania](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/Nelemania)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2023, 3:33pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/161 "2023-04-16T15:33:25Z")

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I watched the dubbed German version as a child (I couldn’t understand English at the time) and later the American version.

A friend of mine (huge movie nerd) has a DVD or Blu-ray disc with both the German and original Japanese version (English subtitles) and we had a viewing night and watched them back to back. I like both versions, but there is a nostalgia factor at play that makes the German version look way better to me than it should.

I’ve never seen Shin Godzilla, so I’m definitely going to check that out!

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**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2023, 4:47pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/162 "2023-04-16T16:47:48Z")

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I didn’t really enjoy Shin Godzilla. I thought the monster looked cool, but I just didn’t “get” it. Maybe I’m too stupid, but I found it kinda boring. 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Reset\_Tears](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/reset_tears/32/11706_2.png) [@Reset\_Tears](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/Reset_Tears)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 5:13am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/163 "2023-04-17T05:13:55Z")

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> [@Nelemania](#):
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> I saw it as a child on television one night when my parents were out bowling. I wasn’t allowed to watch it, but I did. That film gave me nightmares for years. I think everyone should see it. If you give it a chance, it actually stands up, as @Reset_Tears wrote, because of the human part(s) of the story. The reporter on the tower, for example, reporting until the last minute is such a classic.

A lot of moments like that hit hard, even all these years later. I also just like the story of the eyepatch-wearing scientist in general. His quandary regarding the use of an astoundingly terrible weapon felt like stuff of classic sci-fi, and you really feel for him.

> [@BMO](#):
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> A 60th anniversary edition restored the original Toho cut, and I highly recommend it for anyone who hasn’t watched the original version. I suspect that cut is the one @Reset_Tears is referring to above, but I know that a lot of people have or had only seen the altered American cut as that was the main cut that circulated outside Japan for decades.

I should have specified – I do recommend folks check out the original Japanese cut and use subtitles, in order to get the full movie experience. The shorter and revised American version is an interesting one to watch as a case of early film localization, and stands up well enough on its own – but the original version is readily available these days thanks to Criterion.

Eventually I’ll get around to watching Shin Godzilla… I kind of want to just continue where I left off though in the world of Godzilla, by watching the films from 1984 to 2004 (about a dozen movies). They’re unfortunately much harder to come by, so IDK, we’ll see.

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**Author:** ![NIQ\_m2](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/niq_m2/32/15708_2.png) [@NIQ\_m2](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/NIQ_m2)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 12:40am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/164 "2023-04-18T00:40:38Z")

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I was home alone for a bit on the weekend and finally watched The Goonies, which a friend had recommended to me. It was pretty cool. Those would’ve been some pretty horrific experiences for kids that age, I think

They should have a game like Turtles 3: Radical Rescue [Metroidvania where all the Goonies would have a special ability to progress]. Maybe their existing game is like that; I don’t know

I also got the Real Ghostbusters DVD on sale; that’s a good one

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**Author:** ![anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@anon30672897](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon30672897)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/165 "2023-04-18T16:04:59Z")

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My wife and I watched _The Goonies_ last year after hearing for so long how amazing it was. At the film’s end we just looked at each other and said “is that it?” I honestly thought it was mediocre at best, I really don’t know what the fuss is about.

Good choice with _Real Ghostbusters_! It’s an amazing series with some wonderful episodes. I imported the complete collection from the US to Australia back on the day. I’m embarrassed to say how much it cost, but it was totally worth it!

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**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/movies-and-tv-anyone/10249/166 "2023-04-18T18:43:19Z")

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> [@anon30672897](#):
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> My wife and I watched _The Goonies_ last year after hearing for so long how amazing it was. At the film’s end we just looked at each other and said “is that it?” I honestly thought it was mediocre at best, I really don’t know what the fuss is about.

_The Goonies_ is just one of those films I could never get into. Even when I was exactly the right age for it when it came out. I don’t think it’s bad, per se, but I also don’t find it very entertaining.

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