# Missing platforms

**URL:** <https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518>\
**Category:** Meta\
**Created:** [September 26, 2017, 8:48am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518 "2017-09-26T08:48:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hawkuro](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/hawkuro/32/16345_2.png) [@Hawkuro](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/Hawkuro)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/24 "2018-09-06T14:35:51Z")

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[Game Dev Tycoon](https://www.grouvee.com/games/37864-game-dev-tycoon/) for Android is missing,  
[Tempest](https://www.grouvee.com/games/49417-tempest/) for PC as well, and  
[RaidersSphere4th](https://www.grouvee.com/games/55043-raiderssphere4th/) for PC

(I was going to edit my previous comment but I don’t think I can yet?)

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**Author:** ![Hawkuro](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/hawkuro/32/16345_2.png) [@Hawkuro](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/Hawkuro)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 11:22am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/25 "2018-09-19T11:22:40Z")

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[Sega Genesis Classics](https://www.grouvee.com/games/65401-sega-genesis-classics/) is missing Nintendo Switch

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**Author:** ![OTRawrior](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/aca169/32.png) [@OTRawrior](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/OTRawrior)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 11:46am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/26 "2018-09-21T11:46:12Z")

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Into the Breach is also out for Switch, not just PC.

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**Author:** ![giopep](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/giopep/32/5583_2.png) [@giopep](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/giopep)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 11:47am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/27 "2018-10-01T11:47:53Z")

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Hi, I’m not sure if this is the right thread for it but my question is technically about missing platforms, so…  
I was wondering if retro consoles like the NES and SNES Mini should be considered new platforms. I mean, they clearly are not original hardware, they emulate the games, so… But of course I understand if you guys think it would complicate things too much. 🙂

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**Author:** ![anon99849784](https://discuss.grouvee.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/7bcc69/32.png) [@anon99849784](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/anon99849784)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 7:53am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/28 "2018-10-03T07:53:20Z")

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Okami doesn’t have Switch as a listed platform. I can’t see a distinction between Okami and Okami HD.

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**Author:** ![peter](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/peter/32/16487_2.png) [@peter](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/peter)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/29 "2018-10-03T16:25:53Z")

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Yeah, I don’t think they would be considered new platforms. Like you said, they just emulate the original platforms, and they don’t add anything to the gameplay (maybe you could argue save states).

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**Author:** ![Kory](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/kory/32/13623_2.png) [@Kory](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/Kory)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/30 "2018-10-08T20:04:17Z")

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The Jeopardy game for Wii is missing from the site.

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**Author:** ![Kory](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/kory/32/13623_2.png) [@Kory](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/Kory)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 6:29am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/31 "2018-10-09T06:29:59Z")

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The early Harry Potter games probably shouldn’t all be lumped together as one entity. Different platforms got completely different games. For example, Chamber of Secrets has 5 different developers for the different versions made for the different platforms.

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**Author:** ![giopep](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/giopep/32/5583_2.png) [@giopep](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/giopep)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 8:15am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/32 "2018-10-11T08:15:02Z")

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I have a feeling I didn’t explain myself, so I’ll try again, just to be safe. 🙂  
I’m not sure, but I think they _could_ be considered separate platforms because:

1. tecnically, they are new hardware. They are not a miniature NES or SNES, they are completely different platforms with an emulator software on them. So it would make sense to consider the games as new editions, conversions, whatever;
2. they emulate, sure, but they are officially sold emulators. Of course I wouldn’t want to count PC or Android as platforms for every single game from the eighties because you can (illegally) emulate them. But we do consider Wii, Switch, Android or PS4 as new platforms for old games when they come out on them. And Virtual console emulation is not particularly different from the one you can see on a Nintendo Mini. So, considering in the database Mega Man has PS3, 3DS, Wii and other modern platforms, it could make sense to also have Nintendo Mini;
3. I’m sure you understand that the NES Mini version is quite different from the NES version, in many significant ways, from a collector point of view but even from a “I just want to play it” point of view. So, ideally, in my admittedly obessive mind (:D), it would make sense to be able to differentiate them here on Grouvee.

But then again, I understand it could be a borderline point of view, so I won’t push it. I just wanted to be sure I explained myself.

Cheers 🙂

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**Author:** ![DrGore](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/drgore/32/5583_2.png) [@DrGore](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/DrGore)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 8:48am UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/33 "2018-10-11T08:48:08Z")

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Missing from Xbox 360

- [Dance Dance Revolution Universe 2](https://www.grouvee.com/games/20486-dance-dance-revolution-universe-2/)

Missing from PlayStation 2

- [Delta Force: Black Hawk Down - Team Sabre](https://www.grouvee.com/games/11422-delta-force-black-hawk-down-team-sabre/) Also there’s no non-platinum version listed for PC either. Wikipedia page also claims this to have been released on mobile as well.
- [Pirates of the Caribbean: The Legend of Jack Sparrow](https://www.grouvee.com/games/4630-pirates-of-the-caribbean-the-legend-of-jack-sparrow/) Wikipedia says this was also released on PC too.
- [The Spiderwick Chronicles](https://www.grouvee.com/games/9136-the-spiderwick-chronicles/)
- [Sacred 2: Fallen Angel](https://www.grouvee.com/games/19196-sacred-2-fallen-angel/)

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**Author:** ![Fantalicious](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/fantalicious/32/9959_2.png) [@Fantalicious](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/Fantalicious)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/34 "2018-10-29T18:40:32Z")

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[Limbo](https://www.grouvee.com/games/27827-limbo/) is missing for the Nintendo Switch.

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**Author:** ![DrGore](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/drgore/32/5583_2.png) [@DrGore](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/DrGore)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 2:51pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/35 "2019-01-19T14:51:20Z")

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For anybody still checking this, all these still need to be updated. Will make new topic if they aren’t added in roughly 6 years.

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**Author:** ![Kory](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/kory/32/13623_2.png) [@Kory](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/Kory)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/36 "2019-02-04T15:54:46Z")

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Spirits and Spells for Gamecube has still yet to be confirmed.

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**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/37 "2019-02-04T16:19:26Z")

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Spirits & Spells is the North American name for the PS2 game Castleween (later ported to GameCube and GameBoy Advance). You can find the GameCube entry as one of the [releases](https://www.grouvee.com/games/35491-castleween/releases/) in the following game entry on Grouvee:

> **[Castleween (2002) (video game) | Grouvee](https://www.grouvee.com/games/35491-castleween/)**
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> In Castleween (Spirits & Spells in North America) the player takes the role of the two kids Alicia and Greg who visit a spooky old house with their friends. Unfortunately the Bogeyman steals the souls of their friends and turns them into stone - of...

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**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 4:25pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/38 "2019-02-04T16:25:27Z")

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Just a heads up, all of the titles you listed in [this post](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/33?u=bmo) already appear to list the correct platforms (360, PS2), except for Sacred 2: Fallen Angel as I can’t seem to find evidence that it was on PS2. Let me know if anything is missing.

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**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/39 "2019-02-04T16:26:28Z")

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Switch is listed as a port. Some of these games will get an automatic update once GiantBomb updates their entry.

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**Author:** ![Kory](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/kory/32/13623_2.png) [@Kory](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/Kory)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/40 "2019-02-04T17:50:53Z")

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Out of curiosity, why does Grouvee use the PAL release title and art for this title? All the titles I’ve seen favor the NTSC-U release if it exists, such as Mario Strikers instead of Mario Football.

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**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 6:52pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/41 "2019-02-04T18:52:58Z")

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I made that choice because the original release was a European one, so I was basing the default on the initial release of the game. That made sense to me. I can change it if the preference is to always display the North American name rather than privilege the original release. To be honest I don’t know why we would chose a title for a game based on region if there is another title that precedes that version based on release schedule, thus I am inclined to title the game by the original name based on the initial release (translations may be an exception). You make a good point about Mario Strikers, but that one is also complicated by the fact that the Japanese and North American versions are both called Mario Strikers. I suppose in that instance it make sense to go with the most universally used title.

I suppose ultimately this one is up to @peter. If he thinks we should privilege the NA name over the initial release name, I’ll swap the default.

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**Author:** ![Kory](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/kory/32/13623_2.png) [@Kory](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/Kory)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/42 "2019-02-04T19:01:07Z")

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Oh it’s not a big deal, I was just more curious than anything. Also didn’t realize it came out first in Europe. I also just learned that Strikers came out first in Europe and last in Japan. Today is a day of realizations.

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**Author:** ![BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/user_avatar/discuss.grouvee.com/bmo/32/16491_2.png) [@BMO](https://discuss.grouvee.com/u/BMO)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://discuss.grouvee.com/t/missing-platforms/1518/43 "2019-02-04T20:17:20Z")

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I should add that I fixed the aliases for Castleween and Spirit & Spells. If you searched for Spirit & spells nothing came up, but the Castleween entry had the Gameboy Spirit & Spells release. So I tidied up the releases, made sure they were all there and made it so that no matter which title you search for it will take you to the entry. I also added the NA title to the description.

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