Wow, thanks! That’s perfect.
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Welcome to Grouvee 
If you like the site we have @Peter to thank for creating it. He’s done some amazing work.
Are you playing any PS3 and PC games in particular right now?
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I like Super Mario Galaxy on the Wii a lot, and I love the Gran Tursimo series specifically on the PSP.
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I’ve got a suggestion about the button order in games. Right now its Playing - Played - Wishlist - Backlog - Add to other shelves:
In my opinion, this is kind of awkward.Considering that the natural order of things could be that you first see a game and put it on your wishlist, then you buy it and sits on your backlog, eventually you start playing it and finally you can mark it as played, I think that would be the more natural ordering of the buttons.
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I’m sure this has been suggested before, but would you consider adding half star increments to the five star rating system, like Rate Your Music?
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Hi and welcome. Currently there isn’t a plan to implement a change to the rating system on Grouvee. the founder of the site has discussed reason why in a previous post. The issue comes down to the fact that there are different systems for rating things and everyone will have a personal preference. There is no one perfect system so @Peter has settled on one he likes.
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suggestions
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advanced search or ability to filter results (Filter->platform for example.‘harvest moon’ ‘baseball’ etc)
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vote on (and be voted by) friends backlog/wishlist/whatever or ability to type in comments on any entry in an list. i’ve ‘misssapropriated’ the rating system to give priority to my own wishlist/backlog for stuff i havent played/finished but really intend to. I also have a shelf that is a ‘low priority backlog’ But a voting system for entries like this others could chip in their two cents on, as well as the user would be pretty helpful to managing long lists! Reworking the manual shelf order thing might be one way to go about this, i dunno.
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would like to see what other users/friends have ticked under edit->platforms when looking at a shelf (wishlist for example) currently site wont let you do that. i’m always curious about which versions of a game people actually played when looking at older stuff, so as to play better versions. I think i’ve mentioned before about seeing global stats for how popular a platform is for a game title (It would have prevented easily enough my playing of FFV on the PC) its a similiar idea, but maybe more doable and privacy friendly?
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mark presence of media or even specifiy physical games or digitally owned games (similiar to gamefaqs) i’m not really that interested in this but some are… because currently, users do curated lists/tags for it. But to me it makes more sense to specifically mark it as owned rather than put it in some list as ‘used to own’ ‘owned’ ‘steam’ etc. I’d just put it under Edit platform, (because if i own it i’d do it there anyway. if i dont, or am lazy, i’d ignore it and it would just be out of the way)
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Is there a way to add platforms to a game’s edit->platform selection without editing through Giant Bomb? I tried adding to the ‘releases’ section, but those additions don’t show up under platforms.
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Let me know what you want to add and I’ll add it.
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Well… It’s quite the list.
Playstation 3: Spelunky, The Swapper, God of War, God of War 2, GOW Chains of Olympus, GOW Ghosts of Sparta, Ratchet & Clank 1, Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons, and Resident Evil 4. (The other 2 Ratchet & Clank games have this option, which is why I left them out)
Nintendo 3DS: Pushmo and Star Fox 64 (Giant Bomb has the 3DS platform listed under the N64 version of Zelda:OOT, but hasn’t done the same for Star Fox 64)
Under the same logic as OOT, I think an option for GBA should be available for Mario 3, Super Mario World, and A Link to the Past, considering they were re-released on the GBA.
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So, all of the platform information you’ve requested for each game is in fact there. For the PS3 games the platform is Play Station Network (PS3). This is the correct platform for those games as they are all only available as PSN downloads and not as physical releases. This is how they are distinguished in the database.
As for the 3DS games the same applies. They are listed as 3DSWare because they are digital downloads and not physical games.
Star Fox 64 for 3DS is on Grouvee here:
The GBA versions of the Super Mario games are actually distinctly different from the NES versions, and they were not simply ported but subtlety changed with additional elements added. They are all listed as follows:
Similarly the GBA A Link to the Past is more than a simple port and the database entry can be found here:
I hope all that helps.
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I understand all of this and I’ll just wait for Giant Bomb to make the changes. They’ve ditched digital platforms for the current gen. of consoles and are planning to get rid of them in older gens as well, but according to the forums, are waiting for a huge overhaul to the entire wiki before changes are made. This explains the inconsistency in listings on the site.
As for the others mentioned, they do seem to be randomly adding re-releases to a game’s main page, although I don’t know if they’ve settled on what the rules are. It appears that an HD overhaul and minor gameplay and feature additions aren’t always factoring in.
It’s fine, the more I investigated, the more I realized it’s probably best for Giant Bomb to figure this stuff out. I just hope it leads to further streamlining, rather than everything being chopped up into different listings.
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Yeah, it’s pretty confusing at this point. I’ve thought about merging all of the digital platforms into the physical versions on our side too. I think it makes more sense in the end.
The re-release stuff is a nightmare in my opinion. I think they should get their own page honestly. I get why Giant Bomb doesn’t want to do that though. As far as a wiki is concerned, an HD re-release should probably just be a section underneath the original game. When you’re talking about a database for collectors, it should be a separate entry.
I really wish I had time to build my own database with an API honestly. I’ve said it a few times, but I own the domains opengamesdb.com and .org. It’d be cool to build those up and use them on Grouvee.
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I completely understand. This is actually something that I think both @Peter and I have discussed off and on in past. The separation between digital and physical for platforms like PS3 simply fragments things and muddies up tracking your collection. It would be great to merge them down to one platform. However, as long as there is chance that GiantBomb will push a new game with the tag Play Station Network (PS3) instead of PS3, it is difficult to initiate that merge. At least if the desire is to do it once rather than multiple times.
As for the distinction between which releases get their own entry versus get lumped into an existing database entry, this is a minor pain. There seems to be a lack consistency in how this is handled at GiantBomb, and I find that we’ve had to manage that a bit once the games enter Grouvee’s database. I know I have. The lack of consistency there has to be corrected here, and there are likely plenty of entries that still require review on this end. It’s unclear why some updated versions of games warrant their own entry while others don’t. Sometimes you can guess at the reason, but other times it’s quite mystifying.
It would be great if GiantBomb did clean up some of this on their end. Since their database feeds into Grouvee, it’s hard to system wide changes here without it being upended by GiantBomb and new entries at a later date.
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I should add that we can totally add those platforms to each game. The problem with that is the question of where it ends. I’ve thought about it in past but the scope of work is probably too large. I agree with Peter, that it makes the most sense to merge them altogether.
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for the phys vs digital copy thing: could it be possible and maybe easiest to just let GB do its thing but have some kinda toggle display options for each user to ‘temporarily’ lump say digital and phys platofrms together? I would imagine a lot of people would lump em in most pragmatic fashion. it would just be cosmetic but things would display in a way that would (hopefully) make more sense. it wouldnt be database edits and would hopefully be easy to do. maybe a ‘toggle filter choice option’ would be the best route for a few of these things. a pseudo ‘double entry system’ for 3DSware 3ds’ might cover it.
i’d also love to have a feature where if a page doesnt have a platform, let a user force a ‘PC’ cause that’s all i care about. maybe just make it so that what grouvee pulls from GB is just a ‘guidance’ and allow users to tell a game whatever platform they want (even if it doesnt exist)
i like keeping track of releases on games i plan to play them on. I can then go to filter view for wishlist:
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shoot em up → PC Engine,
or Sega Saturn JRPG
PC-> Rts (you get the idea) it’s great.
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Add Sandbox genre.
Add searching games, that are not in my shelves.
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I know you asked for this several months ago, but I finally put up all statuses on a game’s page. So if you wanted to see that the only person who has ever posted a status for King’s Quest VI is me, you could go to the game’s page, and scroll down to the bottom where it says All Status Updates.
It’s actually pretty cool on some of the games to see where there have been lots of discussion.
Also, @bmo posts a bunch of cool pictures and trailers, and now it’s a lot easier to find them. For instance, check out Mass Effect Andromeda:
Zelda Breath of the Wild:
I should probably paginate them, but they load fast, and I think it’s cool to see them all on one page right now.
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Wow, awesome! I like it a lot. Nice work!
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I just noticed this out in the wild. I think it’s excellent. the status update update thing on game pages is perfect. Some pages really did need this. The really popular games now have very long pages and it can be tough to scroll down to the status section. you could do a side by side layout or have quick-jump buttons with the #status (such as the link you posted). Either way i think it’s a huge improvement. it’s nice to see who is playing what and see other people outside of the main feed.
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